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		<title>By: Funster596</title>
		<link>http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/03/full-flat-flights-forthcoming/comment-page-1/#comment-4056</link>
		<dc:creator>Funster596</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry i meant to put Boeing 767-400 in the second to last sentence!</description>
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		<title>By: Funster596</title>
		<link>http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/03/full-flat-flights-forthcoming/comment-page-1/#comment-4055</link>
		<dc:creator>Funster596</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey

This sounds and looks amazing!

My flight is a boeing 767-400, but my flight is from Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport to Madrid-Barajas Airport.

My flight leaves on Tuesday June 23rd 2009, Is this the Business Elite, the one that will also be on my plane? i sure hope so, because here it only says it for U.S to London. Please tell me this will also be the plane from Atlanta to Madrid, because my plane is also a Boeing 467-400

Please Respond here please, Or email me at Funster596@aol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey</p>
<p>This sounds and looks amazing!</p>
<p>My flight is a boeing 767-400, but my flight is from Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport to Madrid-Barajas Airport.</p>
<p>My flight leaves on Tuesday June 23rd 2009, Is this the Business Elite, the one that will also be on my plane? i sure hope so, because here it only says it for U.S to London. Please tell me this will also be the plane from Atlanta to Madrid, because my plane is also a Boeing 467-400</p>
<p>Please Respond here please, Or email me at <a href="mailto:Funster596@aol.com">Funster596@aol.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: JaneDoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/03/full-flat-flights-forthcoming/comment-page-1/#comment-2703</link>
		<dc:creator>JaneDoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree that the seats do not look comfortable.  Also, isn&#039;t using these for JFK-LHR a waste?  It&#039;s one of the shortest TATL routes and the flight over - unless you skip dinner and go right to sleep - is barely long enough for more than a long nap.  Why not use them on longer routes, when there&#039;s time to get a decent night&#039;s sleep and really take advantage of the lie-flat opportunity.  I suppose DL wants to be competitive with BA but IMO, these would be put to better use on longer routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that the seats do not look comfortable.  Also, isn&#8217;t using these for JFK-LHR a waste?  It&#8217;s one of the shortest TATL routes and the flight over &#8211; unless you skip dinner and go right to sleep &#8211; is barely long enough for more than a long nap.  Why not use them on longer routes, when there&#8217;s time to get a decent night&#8217;s sleep and really take advantage of the lie-flat opportunity.  I suppose DL wants to be competitive with BA but IMO, these would be put to better use on longer routes.</p>
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		<title>By: Houston1922</title>
		<link>http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/03/full-flat-flights-forthcoming/comment-page-1/#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator>Houston1922</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, maybe Chris can provide some insight. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, maybe Chris can provide some insight. . .</p>
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		<title>By: DTWRedTail</title>
		<link>http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/03/full-flat-flights-forthcoming/comment-page-1/#comment-2647</link>
		<dc:creator>DTWRedTail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought initially these types of seats would be fitted on the aircraft that fly between JFK and LHR only?</description>
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		<title>By: Houston1922</title>
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		<dc:creator>Houston1922</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, this is very exciting news!  My fiancee and I are booked to fly between ATL and Zurich (outbound) and Milan to ATL (inbound) in August, 2009 in BusinessElite for our honeymoon and would love to see these new seats introduced to the 767-3 by the end of next summer.  I realize you probably don&#039;t know exactly when you would plan to carry these upgrades over to the 767-3s, but do you have a general sense of when you&#039;d expect those to take place?

Thanks for any info you can provide me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, this is very exciting news!  My fiancee and I are booked to fly between ATL and Zurich (outbound) and Milan to ATL (inbound) in August, 2009 in BusinessElite for our honeymoon and would love to see these new seats introduced to the 767-3 by the end of next summer.  I realize you probably don&#8217;t know exactly when you would plan to carry these upgrades over to the 767-3s, but do you have a general sense of when you&#8217;d expect those to take place?</p>
<p>Thanks for any info you can provide me!</p>
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		<title>By: cincyworldtraveler</title>
		<link>http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/03/full-flat-flights-forthcoming/comment-page-1/#comment-2589</link>
		<dc:creator>cincyworldtraveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See my other post (#8) over at http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/12/announcing-new-routes-to-africa-europe-middle-east-trans-pacific-in-2009/#comments

I know it is just a rendering, but at first glance, these look really uncomfortable.  I&#039;m hoping that what appears to be &quot;hard leather surfaces&quot; is really softer.

I&#039;ve flown flat seats on many different airlines (AF, BA, LH, NW, TG, SQ, maybe one other).  All of these carriers have various designs, but in my opinion, SQ is the best and most comfortable, NW maybe the worst.  The main differences are &quot;lie flat at an angle&quot; vs. &quot;lie completely flat&quot;.  I hope DL&#039;s seat is in the latter category.  For me, the biggest factor in getting good sleep is how they deal with the seams between the cushions and width of the seat.  The center seam is most critical - if not just perfect, you&#039;ve got a mountain poking you or a hole to fall in.  On the width, I&#039;m an average sized person and stomach sleeper.  So, typically I like to put my arms up in a circle around the pillow.  Many of the lie-flat seats are so narrow that it makes this position uncomfortable - it seems like the designers thought that everyone would lie on their back like a corpse with their arms parallel and very close to the side of the body.

I&#039;m interested in the answer to DTWRedTail - why have so many different designs?  The pods looked very cool.  Are you keeping the NW seats or replacing them as part of the makeover?  (Hint:  please replace.  They are old, have bad seam problems, and have not been maintained very well.  Seems like there is always something not working with the seat and the FA has to &quot;reboot&quot; it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See my other post (#8) over at <a href="http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/12/announcing-new-routes-to-africa-europe-middle-east-trans-pacific-in-2009/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/12/announcing-new-routes-to-africa-europe-middle-east-trans-pacific-in-2009/#comments</a></p>
<p>I know it is just a rendering, but at first glance, these look really uncomfortable.  I&#8217;m hoping that what appears to be &#8220;hard leather surfaces&#8221; is really softer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve flown flat seats on many different airlines (AF, BA, LH, NW, TG, SQ, maybe one other).  All of these carriers have various designs, but in my opinion, SQ is the best and most comfortable, NW maybe the worst.  The main differences are &#8220;lie flat at an angle&#8221; vs. &#8220;lie completely flat&#8221;.  I hope DL&#8217;s seat is in the latter category.  For me, the biggest factor in getting good sleep is how they deal with the seams between the cushions and width of the seat.  The center seam is most critical &#8211; if not just perfect, you&#8217;ve got a mountain poking you or a hole to fall in.  On the width, I&#8217;m an average sized person and stomach sleeper.  So, typically I like to put my arms up in a circle around the pillow.  Many of the lie-flat seats are so narrow that it makes this position uncomfortable &#8211; it seems like the designers thought that everyone would lie on their back like a corpse with their arms parallel and very close to the side of the body.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in the answer to DTWRedTail &#8211; why have so many different designs?  The pods looked very cool.  Are you keeping the NW seats or replacing them as part of the makeover?  (Hint:  please replace.  They are old, have bad seam problems, and have not been maintained very well.  Seems like there is always something not working with the seat and the FA has to &#8220;reboot&#8221; it).</p>
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		<title>By: DTWRedTail</title>
		<link>http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/03/full-flat-flights-forthcoming/comment-page-1/#comment-2523</link>
		<dc:creator>DTWRedTail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many types of seats is DL going to have in the Business class section? They have the old seats, the pod-like seats on some of the 777s. now add the NW WorldBusiness Class lie-flat seats to the mix...no consistency in DL&#039;s high-end product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many types of seats is DL going to have in the Business class section? They have the old seats, the pod-like seats on some of the 777s. now add the NW WorldBusiness Class lie-flat seats to the mix&#8230;no consistency in DL&#8217;s high-end product.</p>
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		<title>By: frances1</title>
		<link>http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/03/full-flat-flights-forthcoming/comment-page-1/#comment-2487</link>
		<dc:creator>frances1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell you what, why not fit the 767-300ERs with seat back tvs first.
We fly Manchester to Atlanta soon and have been informed by your staff that when we enter your plane we may feel as though we gone back in time to 1980, as the only entertainment provided on a NINE HOUR FLIGHT will be overhead tvs.
In this day and age I can&#039;t believe a airline like Delta would be championing flat beds in business while in coach they can&#039;t provide what other airlines would consider to be a basic facility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell you what, why not fit the 767-300ERs with seat back tvs first.<br />
We fly Manchester to Atlanta soon and have been informed by your staff that when we enter your plane we may feel as though we gone back in time to 1980, as the only entertainment provided on a NINE HOUR FLIGHT will be overhead tvs.<br />
In this day and age I can&#8217;t believe a airline like Delta would be championing flat beds in business while in coach they can&#8217;t provide what other airlines would consider to be a basic facility.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris B.</title>
		<link>http://blog.delta.com/2008/11/03/full-flat-flights-forthcoming/comment-page-1/#comment-2455</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HWGeek...this is a computer rendering. We&#039;ll post pics of the actual seat in the aircraft as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HWGeek&#8230;this is a computer rendering. We&#8217;ll post pics of the actual seat in the aircraft as soon as possible.</p>
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